The Massey Dialogues – The Long, Long Intertwined History of Canada’s Military and Indigenous Peoples

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The Massey Dialogues – The Long, Long Intertwined History of Canada’s Military and Indigenous Peoples

Wednesday, November 11 at 4:00 pm - 5:00 pm EST

This event will be broadcast online and is welcome to all – there is no login or registration required to tune in from the comfort of home. Click here to watch the livestream.



To mark Remembrance Day, Massey College has invited the Canadian Armed Forces highest-ranking Indigenous officer, Major-General Jocelyn (Joe) Paul, to speak with Senior Fellow Phil Fontaine, three-term National Chief of the Assembly of First Nations, and Alumnus and JD and master of law graduate Wanekia (Kia) Dunn, a member of the Métis Nation and specialist in Indigenous law. Senior Fellow Michael Valpy will moderate.

MGen Paul is director-general of international security policy for the Canadian Armed Forces and a member of the Huron-Wendat First Nation. He has served in Croatia, Palestine, Afghanistan and across Canada. Among his many interests are the 400-year history of the dependence of settler culture on Indigenous peoples for survival.


Click here to watch the livestream of this event. The Dialogues are open to the public – we invite everyone to join and take part in what will be a very informative online discussion. Participants are invited to submit questions to the speakers in real time via the youtube channel’s chat function. For information about the Massey Dialogues salon series, click here.



Major-General Jocelyn (Joe) Paul, CMM, MSC, CD is the Director General of International Security Policy. He was born and raised in the First Nations’ community of Wendake, Quebec, and is a member of the Huron-Wendat First Nation. He enrolled as a reservist in the Régiment du Saguenay in 1988 and later joined the Régiment de Maisonneuve.

He obtained a Bachelor’s degree in History and a Master’s in Anthropology before joining the Regular Force in 1991 and then began his career in the Royal 22e Régiment. He deployed to Croatia in 1993 as a platoon commander with 1st Battalion Royal 22e Régiment and in the following years, MGen Paul held numerous positions such as C Company Commander, Administration Company Commander and, lastly, Deputy Commander of the Battalion.

MGen Paul held many command postings, namely those of Commander of 2nd Battalion Royal 22e Régiment and of the Citadel in Québec City, Commander of the 2nd Battalion Royal 22e Régiment Battle Group (TF 1-09), Kandahar, Commander of the Counter-Improvised Explosive Device Task Force, Commander of the Canadian Manoeuvre Training Centre, Wainwright, Commander of Task Force Jerusalem (Operation PROTEUS) and Commander of 4th Canadian Division and Joint Task Force Central.

Over his career, MGen Paul also held some staff positions, including Aide de camp to the Governor General of Canada, Director of Operations in the National Security and Intelligence Advisor office, Privy Council Office, Chief of Staff (COS), Canadian Forces Intelligence Command and Director General International Security Policy.

MGen Paul was awarded the Meritorious Service Cross for the performance of his unit in Kandahar in 2009 and the United States Legion of Merit Award for his service as Deputy of the US Security Coordinator (USSC) in Jerusalem (2014-2015). In December 2019, MGen Paul was admitted into the Order of the Military Merit as a Commander. In addition, he received the Quebec First Peoples Award (First Nations), by the Quebec Lieutenant Governor.

A dedicated hunter and fisherman, he likes to roam in the Canadian wilderness. He is married and is a proud father of two young adults.


Phil Fontaine is a Special Advisor of the Royal Bank of Canada.  Mr. Fontaine served as National Chief of the Assembly of First Nations for an unprecedented three terms.  He is a Member of Order of Manitoba and has received a National Aboriginal Achievement Award, the Equitas Human Rights Education Award, the Distinguished Leadership Award from the University of Ottawa, the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee, and most recently was appointed to the Order of Canada. Mr. Fontaine also holds eighteen Honorary Doctorates from Canada and the United States.


Wanekia (Kia) Dunn is a new alumnus of the College and has just completed his Juris Doctor and Master of Laws degrees at the University of Toronto. His legal areas of focus currently include Aboriginal law, public-private partnerships, trusts, not-for-profits and forms of Social Benefit Corporation, having recently finished his thesis on the legal principle of the honour of the Crown and its implications for Aboriginal law in Canada. He also runs his own not-for-profit, volunteer teaching a Japanese martial art called jujutsu.


Michael Valpy has been a member of The Globe and Mail’s editorial board, Ottawa political columnist, Africa correspondent, deputy managing editor and columnist on social and political issues. Prior to that, he was a member of the editorial board and national political columnist for The Vancouver Sun. He was awarded an honorary doctorate in literature in 1997 by Trent University and the Queen’s Golden Jubilee Medal in 2002 for his journalism. He is a continuing senior fellow at Massey College in the University of Toronto, a senior fellow in public policy at University of Toronto’s Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy, the 2011-2012 Canwest Global Fellow in Media at University of Western Ontario, the 2012-2013 Atkinson Fellow in Public Policy and, since 2019, chair of the editorial board of The Anglican Journal, national newspaper of the Anglican Church of Canada. He taught for nine years in U of T’s book and media studies program; he also has taught at the Munk School and at U of T Scarborough’s School of Journalism. Michael has produced public affairs documentaries for CBC Radio (Sunday Morning), written for the Toronto Star, Ottawa Citizen, Maclean’s, Elm Street, Shambhala Sun, Policy Options and Time (Canada) magazines, contributed chapters to several books on public policy issues, won three national newspaper awards (two for international reporting and one for the impact of children from dysfunctional families on the public education system) and been nominated for a fourth (for a profile of Michael Ignatieff), co-authored two books on Canada’s Constitution — The National Deal (1982) and To Match A Dream (1998) — and one on Canada’s emerging generation of millennial adults — New Canada: Report on the Next Generation (2003).




Wednesday, November 11
4:00 pm - 5:00 pm EST
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